GS writes to Chairman/Convener AUAB for inclusion of residual issue of 2nd PRC (E2-E3 and 30% SAB) in the charter of demands in the proposed organisational action program.
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Updates of AIGETOA CHQ Meeting with PGM Pers held on 29.04.2022
Shri Ravi Shil Verma Chairman AIGETOA and Shri Vivek Kumar Singh AGS-II AIGETOA met PGM Pers today on 29.04.2022 and discussed following issues.
Promotion in from SDE(T) to AGM Grade :
We enquired about the status of promotion and it’s progress. It was informed that Pers team is on Job and are under discussion with various stakeholders to arrive at a firm consensus. The legal position as on date has been explained to each of them and now they all have to take a holistic approach so that the process of promotion can become smooth and hassle-free. It was highlighted that management is determined to extend the promotion in line with directions of GoI and will take all necessary steps to execute the same at the earliest. We told that under any circumstances, there should not be any delay. While we assured that association will also take all necessary steps to develop a consensus but at the same time association will not accept any delay by making this non consensus as an excuse. We said it should be the duty of management to follow the judicious path and justice should prevail for all.
We also highlighted about lack of proper monitoring wrt completion of APAR data capturing in ERP. PGM Pers assured that his team is on Job and all necessary monitoring is being done to complete the exercise at the earliest.
We also categorically stated that all the vacancies upto 1.1.2022 should be filled up and as being done in the case of SDE Promotions, vacancy arising out of the look after DGM post should also be taken into account. We also requested that expeditious action of framing of MSRRs should be done where stagnation criteria and fast track promotion policy should find its due place. PGM Pers assured that whatever that has been assured to AIGETOA, shall be taken care of and there is need to have patience, ultimately interest of everyone shall be ensured. We also affirmed that all these executives have faced enough in their years as JTO and SDE due to various reasons and discrepancies and now there should not be any injustice to anyone. While we also believe in continuity but at the end no body should be left out without justice and it’s the duty of the association and management to ensure justice for all.
OTP Transfers :
We requested for issuance of OTP transfers as it is already delayed. PGM Pers assured that today it will be issued. We requested for consideration of all genuine cases. PGM Pers assured that all cases which satisfy the criteria shall be taken care of and if any one is inadvertently left that can be taken care of subsequently.
Promotion to left out JTOs of 2008 batch and status of modified MS RRs :
It was informed that all left out JTOs of 2008 will be covered soon.
The issuance of modified SDE RRs shall also be done soon. It was highlighted that apprehensions raised by AIGETOA on the RRs shall be taken care of while issuance of modified SDE RRs.
Reversal Issue :
We expressed our resentment that April 30 is almost over and even file has not been put up yet. PGM Pers told that he will direct the section to process the file in next few days. We once again told that as assured at various platforms, it should be resolved in positive direction.
Status of Process of Transfer of long Stay list circulated in February 2022 :
We expressed that after issuance of list and taking of options from executives, any unnecessary hold up leads to apprehensions and unfair practices down the line for encashment of hardships by some mischievous elements. Hence Department should take an immediate and firm decision on this aspect and Juniors should not be made Pray for such indecisive actions. PGM Pers assured that he will discuss the apprehensions raised by Association with Director and CMD BSNL and assured that there will not be any injustice.
Friends, Team AIGETOA is on job and we assure that at the end Justice will prevail and association will go to any extent to ensure this. All stakeholders belonging to different groups should have patience and faith in the team.
Updates of Team AIGETOA Meeting with Director HR on 28.04.2022
Team AIGETOA held a detailed meeting with Director HR on various issues on 28.04.2022, which was attended by Shri Wasi Ahmad GS, Shri Vivek Kumar Singh AGS, Shri Sunil Gautam AGS, Shri Yogendra Kumar AGS.
Following issues were discussed in details:
Standard Pay Scale E2-E3:
The issue was raised once again before the Director HR reminding the losses being suffered by young executives due to three different basics i.e. 16400, 19020, 22820 provided by BSNL in same Grade of JTO/JAO. Earlier the management was taking the matter seriously with the DoT in line of recommendation of the BSNL Board to replace the Scale of JTO/JAO equivalent with E2 and SDE/AO equivalent with E3 and it is workable also as no functional grade is associated with E3 Scale. But presently it is not pursued vigorously despite of the long pendency of the issue. This has also become one of reasons that our newly recruited GATE JTOs and JAOs are deserting the department and large number of them already left. He apprised that BSNL is regularly taking up the matter with DoT and we again sending reminder letter in this regard and it will be further taken up with appropriate authority.
SDE to AGM and AO to CAO Promotion:
On AGM Promotion, association submitted figure and details to the Dir HR and apprised that how 2006-07 and subsequent VY LDCE qualified SDEs have been placed en-block junior to 2008-09 SQ SDEs, inflicting grave injustice to these executives. These SDEs are victims of the wrong interpretations of the legal verdict by the management and delay in holding of the LDCE by the department. We reminded that management always speaks about the meritocracy but here the merit has been pushed aside. Hence, it’s a high time to extend justice to them by doing one time measure to promote all SDEs, who have completed more than eight years of the service in the grade, to render justice to these LDCE qualified Executives. We also apprised that various new projects are coming including BBNL operation, which gives ample scope to accommodate all SDEs for Promotion.
We requested the director HR for rigorous follow up from Corporate Office to complete the updating and certification of APAR uploading works which has failed many deadlines. The matter should be taken exclusively with respective CGM and at least one DGM rank officer should be deputed to take daily basis report from the Circle. A direction from your goodself should also go through message to all CGMs to complete the task immediately else the process may get delayed abnormally. He assured to take necessary action in this regard after speaking to the PGM Pers.
We also taken up the matter of CAO Promotion and apprised that only due to 16 days, these young and professionally qualified AOs are not meeting the benchmark to get promoted to CAO despite abundance of vacancies and acute shortage of officers in BSNL. As on date hardly 60 CAOs are working across the BSNL and hence management should think over our demand to give the required 16 days relaxation and carry forward their process of Promotion also simultaneously.
Settlement of SDE Reversal Issue:
On the SDE reversal issue, we reminded Dir HR that reversal issue has still not been settled as promised to get it done latest by April 2022. One more deadline for resolution of the issue has from the management side and these executives are under tremendous pain due to the cold shouldering on a genuine and assured settlement. Dir HR assured to speak to PGM Pers once he returns back from the leave. We requested to settle the issue immediately and ensured that in case of any delay they have to be in the list of promotion. The Director HR assured to do the needful.
Left out DPC of 2K8 JTOs, LDCE for JTO to SDE and LICE for JE to JTO:
The issue of left out JTOs of 2008 batch for DPC and holding of LDCE for JTO to SDE and LICE for JE to JTO were also discussed in detailed. The matter of shortfall of vacancies in the recently notified LICE for JE to JTO was also taken up with the Director HR. It was apprised that these qualified JEs , who are taking lot of load I field units must be provided the opportunity to upgrade themselves to JTOs through proper vacancies in LKICE in all Circles. This matter was also taken earlier in the CMD’s meeting on 26th April. Director Hr apprised that the matter is already is in his knowledge as the same was raised on 26th meeting also and they are working over it.
MS RR Draft discussion:
We demanded to initiate discussion on the MS RR draft and the proposal must contain stagnation criteria in the SDE to AGM Grade as eight years. This is the only way forward to deal with the promotional avenues to those executives not covere3d through DPC in the future in view of young age groups of the Executives existing gin BSNL. Director assured to call the association once formal discussion on the RR starts.
Posting of CGM at Orissa, Telangana and other vacant Circles:
This matter was once again raised with the Director HR emphasizing the importance of regular Circle Head and Orissa being one of the best Circle of East Zone is waiting for a regular CGM since more than four months. Earlier PGM Bhubaneswar was looking over the charge has also superannuated on 30th April and hence immediately one CGM should be posted. Similarly other Circles should also be posted regular Circle Head to intact keep the interest of the department at top.
Tenure Places of Uttrakhand and Karnataka Circles:
Scarcity of staff in Uttarakhand and Karnataka Circles are persisting since long time but no solution is coming from the management side. These Circles have suggested some measures but they are also awaiting decision from the BSNL HQ. We requested that the suggestion of Uttarakhand Circle to convert some soft tenure places like Almohra, Srinagar, New Tehri etc to hard tenure may help in getting the executives as a hard tenure places like other Circle Circles. Similarly, the non popular stations of Karnataka like areas of Bidar, Chickmagalur, Shimoga, Karwa, Madikeri etc should be converted into soft tenure to attract the Executives from adjoin states of Andhra Pradesh, Telangana etc to join the Circle to break their Circle Tenure with facilities and fulfill the requirement of the Karnataka Circle. The Director HR assured to discuss the matter and see the way forward on the matter.
GM Solan Complain to the Director HR:
The matte of GM Solan, Himachal Pradesh Shri Jaspal Singh was raised with the Director HR. We apprised that the GM Solan is creating serious unharmonious situation in the BA through his autocratic actions as well as engaged in local politics instead of concentrating development of the BA. He has issued more than 58 transfer order in just one year spreading throughout the period, which itself shows his priority. These order also used as pick and chose manner flouting all norms and conditions. We submitted all documents to the Director HR and demanded his transfer from the station before the situation becomes more vicious and turbulent. Hon’ble Director HR enquired some points and assured to look into the matter.
Important Information Related AIGETOA GHIS Policy
Important Information:
As the premium quoted by New India Assurance for renewal of the ongoing AIGETOA Group Health Insurance Policy is very high and despite of all efforts, the insurer is not reducing the quote due to high claim ratio. So, it has been decided that the Group Health Insurance Policy will not be renewed at this premium. The condition put forward by the New India Assurance of high individual premium in all plans as well as total premium to be collected is also exorbitantly high.
So, all members are requested to take suitable decision. Any other development in this regard shall be communicated as soon as it is received.
Group Health Insurance Policy Of New India Assurance Launched Through AIGETOA In 2021-22 And It’s Renewal Quote
The final quote has been received from New India Assurance for renewal of the existing Group Health Insurance Policy in 2022-23 which is very high as the claim reimbursement for the ongoing policy is very high (Almost 18 crores against premium paid of around 7 crores with one month left). The company is not showing interest to give relaxation in the Quote Price provided for renewal of the Policy. However, AIGETOA Team is taking its best efforts to negotiate down the premium further.
The group policy floated by AIGETOA from NIA with Medi Assist as TPA was definitely a smooth and hassle-free experience with no hurdles as such in claim processing or getting treatment in best hospitals of India and that too during the most difficult COVID Period. The quote received from New India Assurance for AIGETOA GHI Policy Renewal is very high and we can not agree to such hike in premium rates. The association tried it’s level best to bring a competitive rate from the insurer till last moment but insurer didn’t agreed citing high claim in the ongoing policy.
Hence we thought it appropriate to inform one and all, so that everyone can take an informed decision.
In the present circumstances, AIGETOA may not renew the policy if the premium rates do not come down to our satisfaction. So the existing members may take a decision accordingly.
Updates On AIGETOA Meeting With CMD BSNL
Today Team AIGETOA consisting of Shri Ravi Shil Verma, GS Shri Wasi Ahmad and FS Shri B K Mehta met CMD BSNL today i.e. 21.04.2022 and discussed the following issues:
Status on SDE to AGM promotions and further course thereof:
Association side emphasized that with DoPT endorsing the Ho’nble Supreme Court Judgement, there is no hurdle in promotions and based on the DoPT instructions, the exercise for SDE to AGM promotions should immediately be completed and DPC should be done without any further delay. CMD BSNL appreciated our concern and told that his team is working on the same and next week they will be holding a meeting at DOPT also so that there should not remain any disconnect. Association side emphasized that there is clarity in order and hence the preparatory work should be completed immediately so that there is no delay in holding the DPC.
Further association once again emphasized to CMD BSNL that as assured by him earlier, the diversion of remaining 450 posts from external MT Quota should also be done, so that the complete 4500 posts remains for DPC. CMD BSNL told that presently we are focusing on the way forward towards the Promotion so that no legal lacuna remains. He is aware of the assurances made and all necessary action will be taken to ensure the benefit of the maximum, once the methodology to be adopted in promotion after discussion at DoPT is finalized. He also emphasized that he is not averse to the promotion and the recent SDE order is the example.
He also said that all stake holders including SEWA shall be taken on board before executing DPC, so that there remains no legal complexity in future. We said we will also try to get in touch with all the stake holders so that a consensus can be developed on the most important issue of reservation which has withheld promotions for so long
MS RR draft and Fast Track Promotional methodology
Association told that it was assured to us that final draft will be shared to us by April 30th. CMD BSNL told that his team is working on the same and very soon discussion will be initiated with AIGETOA on new MS RRs and Fast Track Promotion Policy. We once again requested for 8 years stagnation criteria in SDE cadre for promotion to AGM to be incorporated in the draft.
AO to CAO promotions
We requested to grant relaxation of 15 days in case of AOs and execute the promotions. CMD BSNL assured to examine once some clarity is reached on way forward.
Scrapping of MT RRs
We requested CMD BSNL for his intervention as assured to us earlier for scrapping of MT RRs as the new Fast Track Policy which has potential to take executives to highest level is under consideration. CMD BSNL told that his HR team will examine all the things and then a suitable decision shall be taken.
Notification of LDCE for JTO to SDEs and LICE for JE to JTOs
We said that despite several assurances, notification has not been issued yet. We requested him for directing Recruitment cell for immediate notification as now with DoPT letter, there are no showstoppers any more. CMD BSNL assured that he will ensure that LICE for JE to JTO is notified in this week itself only followed by LDCE for JTO to SDE. We thanked CMD BSNL for the same.
Standard Pay Scales of E2 for JTO/JAO/Equivalent
We once again requested CMD BSNL for his intervention with DoT. CMD BSNL assured to take up the same at highest level once he gets some appropriate opportunity to address the same.
Balance SAB Payment
We requested for ensuring the up-to-date balance payment. CMD assured that matter is under consideration and suitable action is being taken.
Team AIGETOA Meeting With PGM(Estt) BSNL CO On 19.04.2022 On The Issue Of Standard Pay Scale E2-E3:
Team AIGETOA comprising of Shri Wasi Ahmad GS, Shri Vivek Kumar Singh AGS, Shri Sunil Gautam AGS met with Shri Saurabh Tyagi PGM(Estt) BSNL CO on 19.04.2022 in his chamber. A comprehensive discussion was held on Standard Pay Scale E2-E3 and association show its strong displeasure about lack of intensity in persuasion at DoT level by the department. GS emphasized to send another strong reminder letter to DoT citing more inputs on this issue. Also, based on the inputs of our earlier meeting with DoT officials, we apprised him to incorporate some points in the reminder letter to provide further clarity as requested by them. It is quite unfortunate that the issue is persisting since long time and BSNL failed to find a solution of the Scale issue, which created at the time of its inception through non standard scale of E1A in BSNL instead of E2 as provisioned in MTNL. We also emphasized that the communication should be made with higher authority in DoT to bring seriousness on the issue. PGM Estt was positive on our submission and assured to incorporate our feedbacks.
Apart from above the association raised the matter of Pay Loss to these executives and interim extension of E1+5 to give some relief to those struggling with initial pay scale of 16400/- in E1 grade and not provided five advance increment. As on date there are three set of starting basic in JTO/JAO equivalent grade in BSNL, which should be streamlined. It has created severe loss to the young executives working in the cadre of JTO/JAO and ultimately affecting their morale.
The issue of settlement of Rule-8/Rule-9 cases and enhancement of Rule-9 period from current Two Years to Five Years was also demanded. It was apprised to PGM Pers that even some surplus Circles are not releasing the Rule-8/Rule-9 Cases despite of the direction from BSNL CO New Delhi. We requested intervene in the matter with respective CGM. Similar, status is prevailing in Rule-8/Rule-9 cases of JEs, where they are also struggling. Finally PGM Estt assured to take the case with all such Circles for Rule-8 Cases and the matter of Rule-9. He apprised that the cases of Rul-9 is resolving smoothly at BSNL CO except few but as far as the period is concerned, it is a policy decision which will be taken up with higher authority.
Team AIGETOA will follow up the issues regularly as discussed and it will ensure it’s implementation.
Reservation in promotion-DOPT Guidelines
DOPT has issued guidelines for reservation in promotions – Procedures to be followed prior to effecting reservations in the matter of promotions by all departments of the central Government.
Update on Group Health Insurance Policy
Dear Member’s,
We are of the firm opinion that health is a state subject and BSNL should come forward to pay the premium of Group Health Insurance Policy launched by them else make the BNSL MRS Cashless facility fully functional at all locations to take cashless medical treatment by the employees. We don’t want BSNL as mediator for any Health Policy if the Premium is to be borne by the Employees themselves. We are self reliant to get such facilities from the market on our own in a more competitive terms.
As far as ongoing AIGETOA Group Health Insurance Policy is concerned, it is ending on 2nd May’ 2022. We are in receipt of requests of many existing members of the ongoing policy for renewal and so we have spoken to the insurer and requested for a Quote for renewal. The Insurer is studying the ongoing policy data and its claims ratio and it is expected to give the quote very soon or latest by next week. There may be change in the premium than last year due to high claim ratio but definitely it will be better than other circulating group health policy. Accordingly, we will revert back soon about the renewal quote, once received from the insurer. This is information to all our members to take an informed decision.